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The evolution of music sales

Postby BonsoWonderDog » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:26 am

1. Pay a lot
2. Pay less
3. Pay a little
4. Pay anything you want
5. OK fine, just pay once per month for everything
6. You now own a U2 album whether you like it or not.
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Re: The evolution of music sales

Postby ElectricPuppy » Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:29 am

I do not care for U2, no sir. Bleh.
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Re: The evolution of music sales

Postby ClavAnother » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:47 am

I use to pay a lot.


Now I don't pay.


I'm part of the problem.


I like old U2.


I don't care about anything they do now. I have their album, but I didn't listen to it. Maybe it's good. Maybe it sux. I don't really care.


I absolutely love Rush, but they haven't put out a good album in years so I won't pay for their records. I will listen all the way through, but it keeps being torture.


I like and listen to the old stuff, but I paid a lot for that.
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Re: The evolution of music sales

Postby selfinflikted » Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:03 pm

ElectricPuppy wrote:I do not care for U2, no sir. Bleh.
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Re: The evolution of music sales

Postby christianrock » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:15 pm

I do like U2. But I don't have their last couple of albums. How do you end up with it without wanting it?

I still pay quite a bit for music - I buy CDs. But I also have Spotify so I do get to listen to something - legally - before I decide to buy it.

I'm part of the solution. I think.
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Re: The evolution of music sales

Postby MetroSonus » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:31 pm

I just buy singles.


Yes I'm one of those people.

And that's once in a blue moon. There are very, very few albums that I listen too the whole way through. And needless to say many of them are from the age of the album. I find it weird though that even in the age of the single as the album, they are still using the 2 singles & 8 filler songs concept from the CD days.
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Re: The evolution of music sales

Postby selfinflikted » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:33 pm

christianrock wrote:How do you end up with it without wanting it?


IF you are an iOS user, you get it for free, whether you want it or not. Do not want.
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Re: The evolution of music sales

Postby MetroSonus » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:45 pm

Yea.. really weird and tons of people are complaining.

I've compared it to the awkwardness of having to buy girl scout cookies because your boss parades their kids around the office looking for sales. :freak:
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Re: The evolution of music sales

Postby selfinflikted » Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:05 pm

MetroSonus wrote:Yea.. really weird and tons of people are complaining.

I've compared it to the awkwardness of having to buy girl scout cookies because your boss parades their kids around the office looking for sales. :freak:


It is! And apparently people were SO put off by this, Apple had to *OFFICIALLY* release instructions on how to 'get rid' of the file in [your] cloud.

Ridiculous. I don't want the album, but it isn't hurting anything by sitting in the cloud waiting for me to download it.

People. SHeesh.
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Re: The evolution of music sales

Postby ElectricPuppy » Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:37 pm

The complaint I heard was that if you put your whole library on shuffle, you might wind up hearing a U2 song.

Musical taste is such a personal thing, and curating your music library is also very personal. For Apple to go and essentially mess with your library feels wrong.
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Re: The evolution of music sales

Postby selfinflikted » Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:47 pm

ElectricPuppy wrote:The complaint I heard was that if you put your whole library on shuffle, you might wind up hearing a U2 song.



Well good lord, who has a data plan to accommodate constant streaming from the cloud? Certainly not me. I play music local to my phone, unless I'm listening to iTunes Radio (rare).
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Re: The evolution of music sales

Postby midinut » Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:19 pm

I'm taking a class on the history of rock and roll and in the beginning we learned about and discussed how Tin Pan Alley was the business model for selling sheet music in the days before radio and TV.

I thought this thread was about that. I listened to the U2 album.
Meh, I like their old shit better.

Not quite sure what the message here in giving it away is though.
Cannot be good for songwriters or artists either one imho.
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Re: The evolution of music sales

Postby selfinflikted » Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:26 pm

midinut wrote:I'm taking a class on the history of rock and roll and in the beginning we learned about and discussed how Tin Pan Alley was the business model for selling sheet music in the days before radio and TV.

I thought this thread was about that. I listened to the U2 album.
Meh, I like their old shit better.

Not quite sure what the message here in giving it away is though.
Cannot be good for songwriters or artists either one imho.


Pft. You can bet your bottom dollar that Apple has compensated U2 for their "contribution."
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Re: The evolution of music sales

Postby BonsoWonderDog » Fri Sep 19, 2014 12:29 am

Apple paid U2 millions of dollars apparently, and people accuse U2 of "selling out". That I don't get. U2 make and album and get paid gazillions - situation normal.

The outrage (and I agree with most of it) is about privacy and security. iCloud is meant to be your personal, secure place to store your stuff, and Apple just put the album there without asking you. What else could they put there, take away, or monitor? That coupled with the recent hacking of iCloud (aka the Fappening) just makes it worse.

For me personally, I think it's just Apple's way of shoving iCloud down everyone's throat. I don't want it, I don't use it, and I don't want Apple setting it up for me and populating it with content for me without asking.

Oh, and I like old U2 too. Joshua Tree FTW.

See Clav? That was a fairly lengthy post.
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