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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:11 pm
by MetroSonus
Does anyone use any of their products? Whatca think? :snax: I think they're the only company I know of that does a lot of digital synth samples. They seem kinda neat but they don't really tell you anything about their engines.. like how deeply can you edit samples etc?

I really just need to reinvest in a good sampler software and roll my own patches like I used to back in the day. Le sigh.. I mean you can get CDs off ebay for cheap that are all single cycle wavs, but really, 99% of them are the same boring flutes, bell and chime sounds and ahhhhh vox sounds. :eyes: That's why I figured it'd be easier just to buy the damn ROMplers and go from there..

thinking.. thinking......

I've recouped from my tres vacationes and am nearly about to start in on the room. The baseboards are dirtier than heck and I'm not really wanting to have to scrub them before I can paint..


PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 2:55 pm
by soundwave106
This is one case where I would've had good recommendations for five years ago. :lol:

A lot of the raw samples for Izotope Iris 1 and Camel Alchemy (at least many of the expansion packs, can't remember about the factory sounds) were often stored in good ol' fashioned .WAV format. Alchemy WAVs in fact often had loop points and root note metadata. This means that you could do some manipulation with standalone audio editors and free stuff like TX16WX, let alone the nice stuff in the Alchemy / Iris engine itself.

Beats the heck out of Kontakt's NZW format (which you have to convert one at a time, if it's possible) and whatever completely locked stuff is in Omnisphere in this regard...

Alas, Alchemy for PC is no more, and Iris 2 is... well... kind of meh.

I haven't used UVI stuff, but from all I can tell, the libraries are rolled up to a big UVI sound bank format. Meaning they also are locked. Having said that I've heard that the engine for Falcon at least looks nice and is very flexible and deep.


PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:27 pm
by gregwar
i've been gassing for UVI falcon and their legendary synth bundle for a while. i can usually f*ck that pig a million other ways so it's not a huge priority

still falcon is really deep and powerful. the built in effects look serious too by ircam

if u want single wave cycles get the galbanum architecture collection for like 10,000 cycles generated mathematically. so much clang. it kicks ass with morphing wave table synths.

i tried serum a lil while back and it was ok but i'm not sure about the deeper features

i like the single wave cycles in the new alchemy for logic with "vintage" waveforms. the cs-80, eml square, arp triangles, etc are dope but i don't know if they are avail separately

if you want to use sample libraries kontakt is king. but for more creative uses like making my own samples i use the v-synth gt and logic's exs24. the exs files can also be loaded into alchemy for additive, spectral, and other creative uses

also, shout out to rapture and dimension pro by cakewalk (?) i was gassing for those a few years ago and rapture has a really high end wave form engine from what i've read. dimension is compatible with lots of old ensoniq, emu, and other old to vintage sampler libraries


PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:08 pm
by MetroSonus
I thought about rapture and Dimension pro and getting the EMU bundle.. Granted it's supposed to be next gen Proteus stuffs. Those I have a soft spot for..

Duh forgot about kontakt!! Will go digging.. :)


PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:13 pm
by MetroSonus
OK I have got to ask... is Roland sue happy?

Reason I ask is oh 20 years ago now.. yikes, I offered to send someone my Xp30 editor disc for free on a forum and I got screamed at by the forum owner, who was immensely cool with the guy selling the "vintage synth rescue kits" which were sysex files and and manuals he burned off to CD. Pissed the every loving shit out of me.. surely, all that material was copy righted, because the manuals bore company logos.. !?!?!

I digress.. starting from there, I've noticed a trend that people have no issue saying "Samples from the Korg M1", but they go out of their way to disguise the roland names. BS 880 etc. I was looking for some D50 samples in kontakt ..


PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 7:18 pm
by soundwave106
MetroSonus wrote:OK I have got to ask... is Roland sue happy?

They have that reputation. Technically, that's the way it is for the D-50 and other ROMplers, sampling PCM based synths and reselling them is a copyright violation. But for some reason, Roland appears to cling tighter to this than other companies. Probably so they can sell this for way too high of a price on the "cloud". :lol:

There's some D-50 Kontakt stuff here and here but I think it's mainly the patches without the PCM stuff.


PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:21 am
by gregwar
roland is kind of telling people to chill

like everyone and their dog had a roland blah pack

it's hard to argue their brand wasn't getting diluted

even uad had to change the branding.