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The Behringer Minimoog Model D Clone?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:15 pm
by christianrock
Apparently it's a go...

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/electro ... st12521506

As with the DeepMind12, they'll get the original concept (basic sound) and add enhancements that people wanted in the original in the first place - perhaps rendering the 70s Model D's.... useless??? :eek:

AND on top of that, a street price of around 400 dollars has been thrown around... :eek: :eek: :eek:

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Re: The Behringer Minimoog Model D Clone?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:02 am
by soundwave106
$400 for a desktop Minimoog (mostly a clone circuit), at Behringer scale with modern SMT production sounds about right in price. Maybe the patch points will bump it up a little more.

It's not terribly creative, but then again what is in today's synth market? :tounge: It seems Gearslutz is wrapped in controversy because of this for some reason though.

Personally, the Minimoog is one of those synths that I've played with a couple of times, and personally not been impressed with. Minimoog lovers might be happy though.

Re: The Behringer Minimoog Model D Clone?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:20 pm
by selfinflikted
Pft. Gearslutz is always wrapped in controversy over one thing or another.

Re: The Behringer Minimoog Model D Clone?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:32 pm
by christianrock
selfinflikted wrote:Pft. Gearslutz is always wrapped in controversy over one thing or another.


If it's not wrapped in controversey there, it's not worth looking at. All the old timers with the 10s of thousands of dollars invested in old synths need to feel threatened by the new gear, otherwise it's junk. :lol:

It's not "creative" as soundwave said, but does it have to be? And the patch points (and whatever else they put on top of it) might be all the creativity one needs. Creativity hopefully is in the ends of the user :)

Re: The Behringer Minimoog Model D Clone?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:45 pm
by selfinflikted
I mean, if it sounds good, it'll be a Model D with lots of extras at a steal. What's not to love?

Oh yea. Moog. I'm never a fan.

Re: The Behringer Minimoog Model D Clone?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:59 pm
by christianrock
selfinflikted wrote:I mean, if it sounds good, it'll be a Model D with lots of extras at a steal. What's not to love?

Oh yea. Moog. I'm never a fan.


Does not compute. Not a fan of newer Moog stuff? That's ok. But not a fan of the model D sound? Impossibru.

Re: The Behringer Minimoog Model D Clone?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:13 pm
by ClavAnother
somebody here has never played a Minimoog. :cop:

Re: The Behringer Minimoog Model D Clone?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:29 pm
by selfinflikted
True, I have never. But. I'm not a fan for several reasons, not least of which is superbloated pricing on usually very architecturally simple machines that all basically sound alike. I have never touched any Moog synth in my life, but I've listened to them a bunch and I never heard anything out of any of them that makes me want to spend the exorbitant amount of my dollars that they ask for their synths.

Re: The Behringer Minimoog Model D Clone?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:12 pm
by christianrock
selfinflikted wrote:...very architecturally simple machines that all basically sound alike.


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Re: The Behringer Minimoog Model D Clone?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:25 pm
by ClavAnother
It has been repeatedly observed that opinions based on a lack of knowledge aren't worth anything.

For instance, I can name a dozen bands that I didn't like, who I then saw live and became a fan

I remember not being at all impressed with the Jupiter 8, and then played one and fell in love.

I have however heard enough people play the shit out of a minimoog to know how great they are, but on top of that I used to own one and there is nothing to hate there.

It would be off to hate something based on the fact that it's so kickass that the market has allowed for them to be pricey. If it truly sucked, nobody would pay that kind of money.

Then again, I got mine for $50, so I don't even subscribe to the rest of the world's idea of monetary value anyway.

Hate it if you want, I'll go so far as to say that without the minimoog none of us would be synthing today.

Re: The Behringer Minimoog Model D Clone?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:26 pm
by selfinflikted
Well they are, are they not? Especially old ones like the Model D. If I am wrong, please submit a claim to the complaint department. They will return your call as soon as possible, but maybe never.

Re: The Behringer Minimoog Model D Clone?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:26 pm
by selfinflikted
ClavAnother wrote:It has been repeatedly observed that opinions based on a lack of knowledge aren't worth anything.

For instance, I can name a dozen bands that I didn't like, who I then saw live and became a fan

I remember not being at all impressed with the Jupiter 8, and then played one and fell in love.

I have however heard enough people play the shit out of a minimoog to know how great they are, but on top of that I used to own one and there is nothing to hate there.

It would be off to hate something based on the fact that it's so kickass that the market has allowed for them to be pricey. If it truly sucked, nobody would pay that kind of money.

Then again, I got mine for $50, so I don't even subscribe to the rest of the world's idea of monetary value anyway.

Hate it if you want, I'll go so far as to say that without the minimoog none of us would be synthing today.


Do not hate. Just never been tempted to buy in the least.

And I admit I have a HUEG lack of hands-on knowledge of Moogs. But I have listened to them tons, and nothing about any of them has ever given me GAS. When was the last time you heard me say I wanted a Moog anything?

Re: The Behringer Minimoog Model D Clone?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:32 pm
by ElectricPuppy
ahhh, do I detect a difference of opinions? :cop:


/popcorn

Re: The Behringer Minimoog Model D Clone?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:36 pm
by ClavAnother
Somebody doesn't listen to George Duke :cop:

Re: The Behringer Minimoog Model D Clone?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:57 pm
by selfinflikted
Who?

Also, yes difference of opinion. But that's ok because I am a nobody so mine doesn't count for shite.

Re: The Behringer Minimoog Model D Clone?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:03 pm
by ClavAnother
So George Duke probably had the best control/ear for the minimoog pitch bender in history; it's not the easiest controller out there.

Re: The Behringer Minimoog Model D Clone?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:58 pm
by ElectricPuppy
IMHO: I wouldn't fall over myself to get a Minimoog. I've played them. They sound good, even with their limitations. But I don't really place it on this uber pedestal that lots of synth nerds do. I'm certainly not going to shell out Big Bucks for one, I think there's better value for the money, and the Minimoog is very, very inflated by nostalgia now.

Eh.

Re: The Behringer Minimoog Model D Clone?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:00 pm
by selfinflikted
ClavAnother wrote:So George Duke probably had the best control/ear for the minimoog pitch bender in history; it's not the easiest controller out there.


NOT BETTER THAN MY MIDI CC's!

Re: The Behringer Minimoog Model D Clone?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:14 pm
by soundwave106
ClavAnother wrote:somebody here has never played a Minimoog. :cop:


I have, and differ. :cop:

To be fair, I did not spend much time on them. The only Moog synthesizer I've owned was a newer one (the Minitaur). I never really gelled with it either.

Many people can do great things with Minimoogs. Everyone's ears and playing styles is different.

I will say that I have also played a Memorymoog (also in passing), and gelled with that just fine. Of all the Moog synths, I wouldn't mind seeing that one come back... *if* they "modernize" the reliability, since as I understand it those things were unreliable right out of the box. But the sound is pretty huge. I get that one.

It is funny that I like the Alesis Andromeda (which has some Moog inspired architecture, although to me the Oberheim filter section is better :p ), and the Waldorf Pulse (which also has a ladder-y filter) was pretty neat to me. Ears can be weird. :idk:

Re: The Behringer Minimoog Model D Clone?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:24 pm
by selfinflikted
This thread is now about Moog hate. Please continue. :jam:

Just pickin' chicken.

If I ever hear a Moog that I feel has a sound that I like and it isn't inflated price-wise, I would get one.