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Re: The Keyboards In My Life

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:37 pm
by MetroSonus
I'm a korg whore.. use your imagination.

Self, what happened with the GAIA? Not as advertised or you didn't like it that much?

Re: The Keyboards In My Life

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:40 pm
by selfinflikted
It was a terrible, terrible synth! The wave forms were not rendered real time - they were samples. SAMPLES.


SAMPLES!

Re: The Keyboards In My Life

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:05 pm
by MetroSonus
I'm fine with samples.. lol. I thought you knew this though.. :lol: Didn't what's his faces arguments on the subject teach you anything? Honestly that's why most people were pissed.. a rompler in VA clothing.

Re: The Keyboards In My Life

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:14 pm
by selfinflikted
MetroSonus wrote:I'm fine with samples.. lol. I thought you knew this though.. :lol: Didn't what's his faces arguments on the subject teach you anything? Honestly that's why most people were pissed.. a rompler in VA clothing.


Yes exactly, and no I did not know that prior to buying. Thankfully, Sweetwater has an excellent return policy :D

Re: The Keyboards In My Life

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:54 pm
by christianrock
First synth was a combination Roland A-80/Korg NS5R back in 1999. I used it on a record I produced for a band I was in, in 2001. The record came out in 2002. I should upload it at some point, that was before mp3s were big... it's not online at all (like all records I've done so far, it flopped :lol:)

Then it sat unused for 5-6 years, when I started to play keys again, and record again... then next came the Fantom XR with the 2nd piano expansion, I think it was SRX-11, as until then I was basically just practicing piano, but that didn't last all that long. The Fusion is really where I started enjoying synths.

Re: The Keyboards In My Life

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:01 pm
by gregwar
a good additive alternative is razor by errorsmith. it makes the most punishing basses because you are working with crisp & clean sine waves.

the alchemy additive engine in logic is odd. the plug-in is very deep so maybe i used it wrong.

anyways, the way i used it was loading a sample into the additive engine. it then tries to resynthesize the sound using partials. from there you can do a lot of editing but i've not tried just making a sound without resynthesizing

Re: The Keyboards In My Life

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:23 pm
by selfinflikted
christianrock wrote:First synth was a combination Roland A-80/Korg NS5R back in 1999. I used it on a record I produced for a band I was in, in 2001. The record came out in 2002. I should upload it at some point, that was before mp3s were big... it's not online at all (like all records I've done so far, it flopped :lol:)

Then it sat unused for 5-6 years, when I started to play keys again, and record again... then next came the Fantom XR with the 2nd piano expansion, I think it was SRX-11, as until then I was basically just practicing piano, but that didn't last all that long. The Fusion is really where I started enjoying synths.


I am very unfamiliar with the Fusion. I would like to research it. I remember once a long while back you posted some Vangelis stuff that (I think) you'd done on the Fusion. It sounded nice, but aside from hearing that - I know next to nothing about it. I'll have to do some YouTubing.

Re: The Keyboards In My Life

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:36 pm
by christianrock
selfinflikted wrote:
christianrock wrote:First synth was a combination Roland A-80/Korg NS5R back in 1999. I used it on a record I produced for a band I was in, in 2001. The record came out in 2002. I should upload it at some point, that was before mp3s were big... it's not online at all (like all records I've done so far, it flopped :lol:)

Then it sat unused for 5-6 years, when I started to play keys again, and record again... then next came the Fantom XR with the 2nd piano expansion, I think it was SRX-11, as until then I was basically just practicing piano, but that didn't last all that long. The Fusion is really where I started enjoying synths.


I am very unfamiliar with the Fusion. I would like to research it. I remember once a long while back you posted some Vangelis stuff that (I think) you'd done on the Fusion. It sounded nice, but aside from hearing that - I know next to nothing about it. I'll have to do some YouTubing.


The Fusion is very, very powerful as a synth and as a sampler. But the interface is pretty much stuck in the 90s, so I don't think you'd click with it very much.

Re: The Keyboards In My Life

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 6:25 pm
by selfinflikted
christianrock wrote:The Fusion is very, very powerful as a synth and as a sampler. But the interface is pretty much stuck in the 90s, so I don't think you'd click with it very much.


Same can be said of the KingKRIG, sans sampling. Well, at least as far as the interface. It's a top of the line VA (imo) but the interface is poop. So, that's definitely something I can live with/get beyond. But I just wanna research it from an academic standpoint anyway. I'm not looking to get one, I just wanna know more about how it sounds :)

Re: The Keyboards In My Life

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 6:33 pm
by christianrock
selfinflikted wrote:
christianrock wrote:The Fusion is very, very powerful as a synth and as a sampler. But the interface is pretty much stuck in the 90s, so I don't think you'd click with it very much.


Same can be said of the KingKRIG, sans sampling. Well, at least as far as the interface. It's a top of the line VA (imo) but the interface is poop. So, that's definitely something I can live with/get beyond. But I just wanna research it from an academic standpoint anyway. I'm not looking to get one, I just wanna know more about how it sounds :)


Oh the KingKROGUS has a ton of knobs to turn and only advanced things are done via menus. The Fusion is ALL menus. There's some assignable knobs (4) for live tweaking but they have to be programmed into the patches, making it even more laborious. I find it easier to tweak than to create, for that reason.

But the sound (IMHO) is top notch and the ability to layer samples with synths (including a VERY versatile 6-op FM synth!!) is almost limitless.

This doesn't scratch the surface but it shows how you can go from one sound to something totally different (and the synth engine, FM engine and Physical Modeling engine are real, no samples! and can be freely layered with anything):


Re: The Keyboards In My Life

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 6:37 pm
by selfinflikted
christianrock wrote:But the sound (IMHO) is top notch and the ability to layer samples with synths (including a VERY versatile 6-op FM synth!!) is almost limitless.


Ah, so it can do that! I wondered. Is there a computer editor for it? Seems like that would make things easier.

Re: The Keyboards In My Life

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 6:42 pm
by christianrock
selfinflikted wrote:
christianrock wrote:But the sound (IMHO) is top notch and the ability to layer samples with synths (including a VERY versatile 6-op FM synth!!) is almost limitless.


Ah, so it can do that! I wondered. Is there a computer editor for it? Seems like that would make things easier.


Unfortunately... no. :(

Here's some pads a guy wrote with it... it seems to be used for pads a lot



I love layering analog pads with an orchestral patch... I should do a demo of that :) and maybe write a song in the meantime....

Re: The Keyboards In My Life

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:05 pm
by selfinflikted
Well that was just lovely.

Re: The Keyboards In My Life

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:05 pm
by ClavAnother
christianrock wrote:
Oh the KingKROGUS has a ton of knobs to turn and only advanced things are done via menus



:cop: latching an arpeggiator is not advanced. They fucked up not having a dedicated switch. Same thing with the Sledge.

Best keyboard I ever programmed? OB6.

Re: The Keyboards In My Life

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:15 pm
by christianrock
ClavAnother wrote:
christianrock wrote:
Oh the KingKROGUS has a ton of knobs to turn and only advanced things are done via menus



:cop: latching an arpeggiator is not advanced. They fucked up not having a dedicated switch. Same thing with the Sledge.

Best keyboard I ever programmed? OB6.


Ah that is true...

Re: The Keyboards In My Life

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:29 pm
by selfinflikted
Actually, the KingKGOR doesn't have a "ton" of knobs. It only has knobs for the most immediate things. I can easily live with it, though, because most Korg VA menus are nearly identical. And as we all know, MS2000.

Do you still have yours, Clavicle? (KK)

Re: The Keyboards In My Life

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:37 pm
by ClavAnother
The KiNgKrInG, the MS2Kb, teh Sledge, the JP8000000...all gone. The System 8? I think it will be here for quite some time.

I was listening to this video while I was at work today, this synth is such a killer!



Re: The Keyboards In My Life

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:13 pm
by selfinflikted
Yea. I just donated a bit of cash to VAC's GoFundMe for an OB6 to make his next album with. It is a lovely bit of synthery.

Re: The Keyboards In My Life

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:51 pm
by Plink Floyd
This is a good thread, and I fully intend to participate, but every time I start my list some dam thing

Re: The Keyboards In My Life

PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 1:52 pm
by MetroSonus
that is pretty cool... you had a sledge?