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Roland 909 day

Postby gregwar » Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:47 am

looks like a system-8 with a Jupiter 8 is on the way...

along with a new tb-303, tr-09, vocoder, etc

I feel pretty good about this !
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Re: Roland 909 day

Postby gregwar » Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:15 am

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Re: Roland 909 day

Postby MetroSonus » Thu Sep 08, 2016 12:33 pm

I figured the JP8 plugout was gonna happen.. the others :eek:

It does seem weird though to offer stand alone modules when they have the beat box aira thingy. :idk:

Can't wait for a D50 plugout :wave:
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Re: Roland 909 day

Postby christianrock » Thu Sep 08, 2016 1:58 pm

The System-8 looks a bit like a JP-8000 with Vegas Lights, doesn't it? Or is it just me?

Anyway, the Behringer will be actual analog and cheaper. So to - as Shania Twain said...

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Ditto for all the other virtual analog stuff with original style interfaces, when there's real analog out there without the Roland price tag.
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Re: Roland 909 day

Postby gregwar » Thu Sep 08, 2016 2:27 pm

I dunno

the 303 and 909 look suspiciously the same size as the jp-08 based on where the power switch is located. if they're both like $300 each that's pretty cool. I got my jp-08 on monster days it was around $80 off so that's pretty cheap !

I'm so over the analog/digital debate and to have dedicated boxes like this is actually awesome the more I think about it. 909 and 303 paired with the original poly boutiques and you could make some seriously great techno imho for less than some plug-ins.

obvs to each their own, ymmv

ps. I get that people fetishize analog and nos components and for good reason. they do sound awesome. but even an analog clone of these still wouldn't be 'good enough' for the purists.
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Re: Roland 909 day

Postby christianrock » Thu Sep 08, 2016 2:45 pm

I know, they are all about this "modern capacitors are crap" conversation over at GS, even dissecting modern Moog synths to prove their point :lol:

But yeah I do have to admit that all the knobs and buttons at your fingertips is pretty awesome and beats using a VST on a computer with some Novation controller that won't do what you want, any day of the week :thu: I do wish they were a bit bigger for those of us with not-so-tiny-hands... but the mini stuff is all the rage nowadays I guess :idk: that and never seeing any proper 61-key synths anymore, put me in a bit of a sour mood I guess.
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Re: Roland 909 day

Postby gregwar » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:39 am



looks like the tr-09 is set up to program just like the original hardware. it can output 4 (stereo) channels over usb. this is how i use my jp-08 with usb into logic and wish everything just went over usb.

the aria tr-8 can do this too with 14 channels output and 4 inputs. if i was seriously considering one of the new roland drum machines i'd spring for the tr-8 likely its just much more in-depth. its cool to have a dedicated 909 unit tho



with the tb-03 its sweet you can program it in step or original mode. if i was really into techno of the new boutiques this is the one to get imo. the drive knob is a nice addition for getting lots of grit and distortion.

on the higher end is the avalon for ~$1000 with $100 analog filter cartridges and there's the volca bass and plug-ins. i don't think the volca bass nails the sound like the tb-03 does, at least in the sub $500 range.

there are other kits and whatnot that are analog and might be better? i'm not sure as i don't really mess with tb-303 style synths very often.



with the system 8 i'm not sure if the deep mind has an edge over it? the dm is real analog but the lack of second saw is a huge bummer. the stock system 8 is pretty powerful with the lfo, osc, and filter variations knobs things can get weird fairly quickly.

as a roland fanboi 909 day has been awesome !! lol
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Re: Roland 909 day

Postby gregwar » Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:09 pm

from synthopia

the tr-09: $400
tb-03: $350
vp-03: $350

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Re: Roland 909 day

Postby ElectricPuppy » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:21 pm

Thanks for the 909 News, GW! I'm gonna check out the demo vids now...
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Re: Roland 909 day

Postby Purity_Control » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:39 pm

Roland binge! :love:
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Re: Roland 909 day

Postby soundwave106 » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:07 pm

gregwar wrote:with the system 8 i'm not sure if the deep mind has an edge over it? the dm is real analog but the lack of second saw is a huge bummer. the stock system 8 is pretty powerful with the lfo, osc, and filter variations knobs things can get weird fairly quickly.


The Deep Mind will be a little less expensive, and have more voices. And "is analog" for whatever that is worth. The System 8 has theoretically nice computer integration (which I can see being *really* useful), and seems to have a more complex voice route.

"It all depends", I suppose. My main criticism of the current plug-out style is that they so far have done nothing but regurgitate 30+ year old gear. It seems like there is an opportunity here that Roland is missing. Although the Roland JD-XA has the JD-800 waveforms for instance, it is not a JD-800, it's a progression of their digital models over the years. (The nice thing about the JD-XA is that, for the first time since the JD-800, they finally made a knobby digital.)

On the other hand, the JD-XA doesn't seem to be selling well. :idk:
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Re: Roland 909 day

Postby gregwar » Sun Sep 11, 2016 5:22 pm

here's some jd-xa jupiter and juno "crossover" patches:



the system 8:


the 80s is strong with this one :the:

i think in a direct "80s poly synth" comparison the system 8 has more to offer. i think where the jd-xa really shines is using it more creatively:



still, both synths are interesting and different. the system 8 osc variations, experimentation, and juno/jupiter sounds are great. the jd-xa digital side is great especially for clean/glassy tones. it would be hard to choose between them lol
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