Winter NAMM 2016

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Winter NAMM 2016

Postby ElectricPuppy » Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:45 pm

Oh man, there's some very tempting new toys showing up:

OB6! Oh man!
http://www.davesmithinstruments.com/product/ob-6/

The Waldorf keyboard looks really intriguing to me:
http://www.waldorf-music.info/en/kb37

Arturia's new analog monster! The control panel is so Wave-like.
https://www.arturia.com/matrixbrute/overview
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Re: Winter NAMM 2016

Postby Plink Floyd » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:22 am

Daev & Tom: U MAEKd 4 OCTVE POLY? Y U DO DIS? :mad:

Arturia: Dat Matrix... :eek:
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Re: Winter NAMM 2016

Postby soundwave106 » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:40 pm

The OB-6 is clearly the same platform as the Prophet 6. Probably same digital guts, with a different front panel and different analog "voice cards". Personally I would have preferred to have more flexibility without having to buy both keyboards (in perhaps a more Studio Electronics Omega fashion), but judging from the GS reaction, many will buy both regardless. :lol:

100HP of Waldorf keyboard is enough for one Moog Mother 32 + one Intellijel Atlantis. That would be a bit pricey of a monosynth ($1300 + whatever the KB37 ends up being), but a mighty flexible one, more flexible than those $4000 1970s Moogs.

The Arturia too will end up being mighty flexible, assuming Arturia QC doesn't stink up the place.
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Re: Winter NAMM 2016

Postby christianrock » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:10 pm

The one I'm personally more interested in, is the Arturia. If it sells for a thousand dollars... I might even sell my good guitar amp to get it :eek:

OB6 got me excited until I saw it's 49 keys. And it will probably cost 3 grand anyway.

The Waldorf is a really good idea but I won't let myself be tempted by the modular sirens :lol:
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Re: Winter NAMM 2016

Postby ElectricPuppy » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:19 pm

christianrock wrote:The one I'm personally more interested in, is the Arturia. If it sells for a thousand dollars... I might even sell my good guitar amp to get it :eek:

It think it's really intriguing, too, but I have to imagine that thing's gonna demand BIG money. Like, BIG.

OB6 got me excited until I saw it's 49 keys. And it will probably cost 3 grand anyway.

Eh. So, ye olde XTk is 49 keys, and I have to say, I don't find it all that limiting. At 37 keys, you really start to notice, though. The thing that actually sells me on it are the filters. SEM-style! Because, really, the modern CEM filters just aren't doing it for me.

The Waldorf is a really good idea but I won't let myself be tempted by the modular sirens :lol:

Oh, come one now, you know you want to! :grin: All the cool kids are doing it, man! Come on, we'll do it together! :eek: I'll get a modular and make some clips and then you'll be all MUST HAVE MODULAR DAMN YOU ELPOO
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Re: Winter NAMM 2016

Postby christianrock » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:39 pm

ElectricPuppy wrote:I'll get a modular and make some clips and then you'll be all MUST HAVE MODULAR DAMN YOU ELPOO


Ok, we'll be waiting...

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Re: Winter NAMM 2016

Postby ElectricPuppy » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:55 pm

Oh.... yeah...?! Well-! :mad:

..... YOUR FACE!

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Re: Winter NAMM 2016

Postby gregwar » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:53 pm

yes the moneys of the maxi-brute is teh key

also yamaha montage !!1

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Re: Winter NAMM 2016

Postby gregwar » Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:09 pm

the ob-6 demo is quite good !

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Re: Winter NAMM 2016

Postby christianrock » Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:34 pm

gregwar wrote:yes the moneys of the maxi-brute is teh key

also yamaha montage !!1



Well I'm glad, I thought they gave up on the workstation.

I'm sure they'll sell well and you'll find them in lots of studios.
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Re: Winter NAMM 2016

Postby gregwar » Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:55 pm

i get the feeling that native instruments kore, the "ultimate workstation" could combine way more forms of synthesis than say a fusion, kornros/oasys or now montage.

it makes me sad this idea of combining synth engines was basically perfected but demand, software, and relatively flimsy controllers killed the idea, especially for live performers.

the yamaha corp video where they talk about its design was long but kind of interesting. they spent over a year making the presets and i imagine many people will be grateful if they turn out well
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Re: Winter NAMM 2016

Postby gregwar » Sat Jan 23, 2016 4:41 am

they say $1800 in a couple of the videos

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MatrixBrute
pre-order price: $2000 (after $200 discount)



when i played the mini brute at the store it was relatively easy to make punishing bass with the brute factor and whatnot. the steiner parker filter was cool too but it all seemed kind of limited

with all the modulation and other options (including like 12 patch points) and the huge matrix things could get very awesome very quickly. i wonder how expensive and huge it would be to build this as a modular lol

as a moog voyager killer i think the intense "phatness" of the raw osc and hugeness of the stereo filter would be very difficult to compete with, not to mention top notch build quality

still, the drive and awesome looking sub oscs might make this one of the greatest monos ever imho. i hope they can get all the features working and don't push the release back too too much lol
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Re: Winter NAMM 2016

Postby christianrock » Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:37 pm

$1800 is not a bad price point at all for this type of functionality.

It will make a lot of people look at it instead of a Voyager, I'm sure. Unless they need something very specific from the Voyager... or if you really need that filter, I think the filter difference is going to be more important than the oscillators, but I could be wrong.

Of course you can get that ladder filter by other means as well...
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Re: Winter NAMM 2016

Postby ClavAnother » Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:32 pm

The V'ger is obsolete this year
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Re: Winter NAMM 2016

Postby soundwave106 » Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:51 am

ClavAnother wrote:The V'ger is obsolete this year


All models but the Voyager XL actually. Never really dug the sound of the Voyager to be honest. Still a good representative of the first wave of the analog revival. Had a nice long run.

I'll hold on my Maxibrute opinion until they get some sound samples up that isn't just teaser-style stuff with heavy rock band drowning all the synth. As I said before, the real issue is that Arturia hasn't been so far top notch on QC for their cheap prods. Kind of worrying to say this is "Wave like" because as amazing as the Waldorf Wave is I've heard that was also riddled with bugs. (Then again, I think Internet sometimes grossly exaggerates bugs. I wouldn't call my Alesis Andromeda terribly buggy, but Internet says it is. Go figure.)
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Re: Winter NAMM 2016

Postby ClavAnother » Tue Jan 26, 2016 6:20 am

That's cool your andromeda works. STG had one and it pretty much never worked.
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Re: Winter NAMM 2016

Postby christianrock » Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:14 pm

Years ago I was obsessed with having an Andromeda but couldn't afford one. Now I'm kinda glad I didn't get one...

Alesis doesn't have the best track record when it comes to reliability.
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Re: Winter NAMM 2016

Postby ElectricPuppy » Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:28 pm

System design is hard. :grin: I wonder if anyone's had the bright idea to try to reverse-engineer and improve the A6's code?
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Re: Winter NAMM 2016

Postby ClavAnother » Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:58 pm

Do it pupman
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Re: Winter NAMM 2016

Postby christianrock » Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:19 pm

Aren't the A6 issues more hardware related?
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