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Synthesizers.com modules for the next year!

PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 10:30 pm
by Veracohr
I briefly mentioned in Hai Guyz! that my brother gave me a Christmas gift from Synthesizers.com in which I get a module each month for a year. Their catalog calls it the Entry System Purchase Plan.

I just got the first package!

It contained a 4-foot long case that can hold 22 modules in the front and 4 in the back, a power supply that can supply up to 66 modules, and a power cable harness for 20 modules. It also has a bag of screws and a Synthesizers.com sticker.

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First impressions:

1. I have no idea where I'm going to put this. I'll have to get or build some kind of table or stand for it specifically.
2. The case is bare MDF; I'll have to stain or paint it.
3. Edit: I looked up the system on their site and it comes with a single power module, not the dual system.

Looks like the full system consists of:

1) 22-Space cabinet made with MDF, unfinished
1) QPS1 Internal Power Supply good for 66 spaces
1) QDH20 Power harness for 20 modules
1) Q137 Power Module
1) Q174 MIDI Interface Module
1) Q124 Multiple Module
2) Q106 Oscillator Modules
2) Q109 Envelope Generator Modules
1) Q108 Amplifier Module
1) Q107 State-Variable Filter Module
4) QP4MM-12 12" Patch Cable (brown)
4) QP4MM-24 24" Patch Cable (red)
3) QP4MM-36 36" Patch Cable (orange)

Re: Synthesizers.com modules for the next year!

PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 10:57 pm
by Veracohr
Oh, one more impression:

The catalog they sent along with it has a "Tutorial" page, which contains this bullshit:

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I'm all for the love of analog synth sound, but this bullshit about digital audio being "discrete steps" displays either a terrible ignorance of digital-to-analog conversion that should be abhorrent to any electronic designer, or a blatant lie used to pander to the layperson who doesn't have such knowledge.

Also, subtractive synthesis is no more "natural" than additive, FM, analog modelling, or for that matter, actual pianos, guitars, or whatever. All of them require someone applying education and effort to achieve a result. To me, saying this is just as bad as anti-synth people saying "synths aren't real instruments".

/rant

Re: Synthesizers.com modules for the next year!

PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 11:34 pm
by MetroSonus
That there clark is the gift that keeps on giving all year long...

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 11:56 pm
by ElectricPuppy
First: Baby modular in the making. :thu: :thu: :thu: This makes me moist.

Second: "Real electrons". :lol: :lol: Sooooooooo how do I trade in all these digital electrons for real ones?????

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:09 am
by MetroSonus
That's that hard sell that hipsters want to hear about. Sweet nothings being whispered into their ears about the elitism of having an "experience" with raw, living electricity.

It reminds me if those cassettes you'd get with a new car or stereo. The ones that went "you can now relax knowing that you've made a sound investment in hypermegaglobalcompucore and that you're now the proud owner of a one of kind, hand crafted item that will give you years if reliable use and enjoyment. Now enjoy this music for no reason...".

I never really understood why they give you a sales pitch AFTER you already bought whatever it was :idk:

I shit you not man Roland's virtual system 100 sounds better than than a majority of the analogs out there right now.

I know I tend not to win favor and praise with my often maverick opinions, but new, tight and clean analogs aren't what people are remembering when they think of how awesome analogs are. In contrast, I wager to think most people are recalling older, leaky, worn out, imprecise second or third hand analogs and thinking that's typical and " fat". Or they're donning rose colored glasses and instead imagining a fictitious sound that was created in a studio.

Digital is getting pretty good though... However the market is heavily biased towards cheap, trance or rap in box synths.

It all comes down to use what you line man :Thu:

Re: Synthesizers.com modules for the next year!

PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:56 am
by soundwave106
Veracohr wrote:I'm all for the love of analog synth sound, but this bullshit about digital audio being "discrete steps" displays either a terrible ignorance of digital-to-analog conversion that should be abhorrent to any electronic designer, or a blatant lie used to pander to the layperson who doesn't have such knowledge.


The later I'm sure. Synthesizers.com is an older modular company before it became this weird Eurorack world and more appealed to the type of purists you find on AH.

I think there are definite advantages in certain analog functions (some of which directly relate to the sampling) but that statement is dramatically simplified. And yeah, the "subtractive is more natural" is full of shit. For instance, when it comes to the human voice, vocal tract modeling would be the real way to "keep it real".

To be fair, when Synthesizers.com was founded in 1996, sampling caused far more "issues" than we have with digital today. For instance, right now, I can't think of a *bad* sounding ADC/DAC... back then, oh yeah, there was some crap out there. Stuff like aliasing etc. was more common. CPUs were much slower and couldn't handle oversampled 24 bit audio. Etc. So I can see why there was much more "digital bad analog good" then.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:23 am
by ClavAnother
Nothing sounds like a modular. That .com is a great start. Proper Adult Size Modules™ rule.

Plus look into this stuff. He has the coolest sequencer system. This filter is amazing as well:

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:25 am
by ElectricPuppy
So Suit is still championing the Moog format, eh? He's offering Euro, though, is it only begrudgingly? :grin:

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:29 am
by ClavAnother
yes. As he says, 'Eurorack pays the bills'. That's why he can build the really good stuff. The Moog format system is incredible, but the numbers are just so much higher in the baby-key systems.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:43 am
by Plink Floyd
What an amazingly great present!

I can haz no brother. Tell yours that he is welcome to defect to my family any time he feels under-appreciated. And generous. He must continue to feel generous.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:17 am
by Veracohr
You got it Plinky! :grin:

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 9:46 pm
by christianrock
I'm slightly jelly. Ok ok I'm very jelly.

Awesome stuff :thu:

Keep posting to this thread every time you get something new :thu:

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 10:18 pm
by selfinflikted
I has a slight jelly, too.

But only slight.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 10:45 pm
by ElectricPuppy
It makes me want to build a monster modular and then build up tracks, one awesome sound at a time. You know, for maximum time efficiency. :lol:

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 5:08 am
by gregwar
right on !!

now to persuade my brothers to do the same . . . :grin:

a wall-sized moog system would be so sick even if half the time it was just furniture lol

the real question would be is it load bearing ?

:wave:

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 6:52 am
by Plink Floyd
ElectricPuppy wrote:It makes me want to build a monster modular and then build up tracks, one awesome sound at a time. You know, for maximum time efficiency. :lol:

Yah, can you imagine doing it like they used too? :eek:

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:36 am
by ClavAnother
uh...i still do it like taht thar

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:18 am
by Plink Floyd
Well it seems to b workin for ya. I like it when ya doin that thurr.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 2:28 pm
by christianrock
Plink Floyd wrote:
ElectricPuppy wrote:It makes me want to build a monster modular and then build up tracks, one awesome sound at a time. You know, for maximum time efficiency. :lol:

Yah, can you imagine doing it like they used too? :eek:

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no but cats love it

(you knew that all was coming when Greg asked if it's load bearing...)

Re: Synthesizers.com modules for the next year!

PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 4:52 pm
by ElectricPuppy
So you have two Moogs and you detune one, then what?