Controllers We Have Loved (or Hated) (or mehhed)

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Re: Controllers We Have Loved (or Hated) (or mehhed)

Postby MetroSonus » Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:19 pm

where in the manual does it say that??!?!
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Re: Controllers We Have Loved (or Hated) (or mehhed)

Postby gregwar » Thu Nov 19, 2015 7:38 am

any controller with synth action can be 25-61 keys ideally with excellent daw control technology. right next to the computer is even better

a 'real' keyboard has 88 keys. and they're weighted :poke: :grin:

i've been looking into getting an 88 key master keyboard again as 61 keys on my v-synth gt is nice but not enough for my piano background :idk:

my dad has a fantom g8 but i'd feel bad asking to borrow it. he wants to track 3-4 people especially when family is over. when i send links to gear he passes on it and is prolly too busy.

the problem is if he sold it or lent it i think the lack of recording capability would be harder to face than never actually turning it on. can't judge, i've been there lol
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Re: Controllers We Have Loved (or Hated) (or mehhed)

Postby soundwave106 » Thu Nov 19, 2015 1:17 pm

MetroSonus wrote:where in the manual does it say that??!?!


Right below the section which instructs you on How To Keytar Solo, and just above the footnote that says one must always know where one's Microkorg is.

(Unintentional pun is unintentional! :lol: For some reason, the proper term for each keyboard of a pipe organ is a "manual". I don't know why. :idk: But yeah, usually pipe organ keyboards or "manuals" are 61 keys. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manual_%28music%29)
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Re: Controllers We Have Loved (or Hated) (or mehhed)

Postby Plink Floyd » Fri Nov 20, 2015 6:43 am

The right keyboard is all of them.

Weighted 88 for pianny musics, 61 speedy unweighted keys for organ & poly stuff.

49 is almost always enough for leads, bass or string parts, but I personally do not want.

49 is also 1/2 octave too many for KEYTAR!

So the proper course is

OWN ALL THE KEYBOARDS!
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Re: Controllers We Have Loved (or Hated) (or mehhed)

Postby christianrock » Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:41 pm

My course of action was to have one keyboard to rule them all - the Fusion 8HD which has a lighter piano action that can be used as synth, piano, everything. It would have worked perfectly... if the black keys weren't louder than the white keys.
Still, I'll stick with it for now... but I like the concept of one keyboard (minimum 61 keys) and everything else just hooked up to it.
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Re: Controllers We Have Loved (or Hated) (or mehhed)

Postby gregwar » Wed Nov 25, 2015 2:48 am

addendumb to my post on automap 4.9 and logic 10.2: http://bit.ly/1NrAcs8

if you're having multiple knobs move with certain plugins and sometimes logic channel volume and pan get assigned its because its not setup properly.

in the automap software setup for logic at step 5 you have to delete the previous version of the automap mixer. then you rescan and the new automap mixer was set up automatically

this is the article i used:
http://us.novationmusic.com/answerbase/ ... o-sl-mk-ii

in step 9 the monitor wasn’t assigned to port 2, 3 and automap propellerhead so i assigned them and saved it as my new default template. (i must have forgot to save it to my template before).

now the issue of controls doing multiple things seems to be gone, user error lol my bad

i'm still amazed that they support the remote sl37 mk1. its like 10 years old now and still works with the latest mac os el capitan and logic 10.2 !

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i'm not sure if i posted this already but the mappings library is pretty stellar: http://bit.ly/1SiWP00
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Re: Controllers We Have Loved (or Hated) (or mehhed)

Postby gregwar » Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:34 pm

i've been lamenting not having a proper 88 key master controller and searching the kijijis and craigslists for a suitor.

been using my remote sl37 and v-synth gt keyboards together for midi purposes but not playing them at the same time until recently.

its becoming a really good jam/workflow thing where i can set the novation to do bass duties, key switches in kontakt, or even play different midi channels and have the v-synth keys doing other stuff.

i know this might sound silly but i'm originally a pianist and not accustomed to playing two keyboards at the same time. with a bit of practice . . . :jam:

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Re: Controllers We Have Loved (or Hated) (or mehhed)

Postby ClavAnother » Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:23 pm

soundwave106 wrote: For some reason, the proper term for each keyboard of a pipe organ is a "manual".




yes, organ manuals also have specific names. In a two manual organ such as a Hammond, the upper manual is called the Swell Manual, and the lower is the Great Manual.
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Re: Controllers We Have Loved (or Hated) (or mehhed)

Postby Plink Floyd » Sat Dec 05, 2015 7:06 pm

ClavAnother wrote:the upper manual is called the Swell Manual, and the lower is the Great Manual.

Yeah, it's a hangover from pipe organ days.

They couldn't change the volume of pipes by varying the air pressure because they go out of tune or start sounding weird. If they wanted to vary the volume of certain voices (ranks of pipes), they built them into enclosures called 'swell boxes'. The side of the box facing the audience would be comprised of movable flaps similar to Venetian blinds, of which the aperture was controlled by the swell pedal.

Voices controlled by the 'great' manual were played at a fixed volume.

In some pipe organs, the swell aperture could also be controlled by a mechanical 'LFO', implementing tremolo. If you've heard a big 'theater' style pipe organ, you've heard that effect. It is the pure, iconic, glorious cheese of bygone days.
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Re: Controllers We Have Loved (or Hated) (or mehhed)

Postby MetroSonus » Sun Dec 06, 2015 1:42 pm

Greg, my idea for an 88 was to get a good digital piano. Keep your eyes open on cl etc...

Comes with a stand and some are lrage enough to hold other controllers on top
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Postby Plink Floyd » Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:04 am

gregwar wrote:i've been searching the kijijis and craigslists for a suitor

Not that it's any of my biz, but you wanna be really careful...
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Re: Controllers We Have Loved (or Hated) (or mehhed)

Postby MetroSonus » Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:53 pm

sheesh just meet people through friends like a normal person :freak:
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Re: Controllers We Have Loved (or Hated) (or mehhed)

Postby gregwar » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:09 pm

do u guyz ever watch always sunny in philly ?

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Re: Controllers We Have Loved (or Hated) (or mehhed)

Postby ElectricPuppy » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:34 pm

nope. :idk:
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Postby ClavAnother » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:59 pm

I don't have tv
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Postby ElectricPuppy » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:14 pm

Shared cultural experiences fail.
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Re: Controllers We Have Loved (or Hated) (or mehhed)

Postby Plink Floyd » Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:43 pm

gregwar wrote:do u guyz ever watch always sunny in philly ?

I never seen it, but that Danny DeVito pictograph works just fine as a stand alone bit. You may consider myself amused.

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Re: Controllers We Have Loved (or Hated) (or mehhed)

Postby selfinflikted » Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:45 pm

I cannot watch it. I just can't stand to look at Danny D.
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Re: Controllers We Have Loved (or Hated) (or mehhed)

Postby soundwave106 » Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:31 pm

ElectricPuppy wrote:Shared cultural experiences fail.


No such thing anymore, Internet killed it. :cry:
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Re: Controllers We Have Loved (or Hated) (or mehhed)

Postby gregwar » Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:51 pm

i'm not big on comedies but its one i watch often

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