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NEW MAC PRO ZOMG !!1one!eleven

Postby gregwar » Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:31 pm

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Postby christianrock » Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:40 pm

WUT

DETAILS AT 11?????QUESTIONMARK??
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Postby gregwar » Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:55 pm

I AM THE FUTURE lol

me on the mac mini:
gregwar wrote:other than an ssd or 2 the only thing lacking is a decent video card. when the new mac pros come out we'll know what new high end vid cards are supported. i've seen people rig them up over thunderbolt expansion chassises but that solution isn't ready for prime time.

i heard intel is loosening its grip on the strict review process for thunderbolt accessories. in the coming months we should see wider pc adoption, tb external ssd enclosures (bring your own ssd) and pcie expansion chassises hopefully.


me on wanting to do 4k video:
gregwar wrote:I have an interest in that stuff and want to work more with hd video (up to 4k resolution). the latest graphics card for the mac pro is $2500, rediculous when the pro already costs $2500-5000

I could build a 'cuda core' graphics rendering farm and through open gl other processes but then it wouldn't be able to double as a virtual symphony/mega synth. I wonder what the polyphony would be lol


it kinda feels like apple listened to me and designed the mac pro to fit my needs only lol
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Postby gregwar » Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:12 pm

i could search out more posts but basically i had this idea of doing a modular digital studio. hard drives, audio interfaces, synths, tvs, etc would connect to a small but powerful mac mini. the mini would then be 'swappable', portable, do double duty for live performances, etc.

i felt this was a really forward looking way of doing things as parts were getting smaller, cheaper and more powerful. the only major draw back was the video card on the mini is non-existant and although intel has integrated graphics i've been wanting to swap out the 1080p tv for a larger 4k tv and add video.

i've been looking at a 55 inch seiki 4k tv for a couple months but i don't think it would work with the mac mini. instead of getting an external video card i'm floored that the mac pro is basically a mini that addresses all the qualms i have about the current mini

i'm really hoping they don't price most of us out of this one. i'm hoping it starts at a much lower price than the current mac pros at around $1200-1600 for the basic model with 4 cores, 256g ssd, etc. if it starts at something obscene like $2500 then i'm not sure that they'll sell very many.
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Postby gregwar » Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:17 pm

also this:

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Postby Plink Floyd » Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:35 am

gregwar wrote:me wanting to do 4k video
Don't those cameras cost over One Brazillian Dollars? Or do you mean to just upscale existing video?
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Postby soundwave106 » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:57 pm

Plink Floyd wrote:Don't those cameras cost over One Brazillian Dollars?


(Consults the Hitchhiker's Guide... er... teh Google.)

Looks like the entry level models are approaching $5K now, though that model gets so so reviews and the model I'd probably look at is $8K.

Not in my budget, but not exactly unobtanium pricing. I can't complain about pricey pretty shiny toys. I haz a modular synth.
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Postby gregwar » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:00 pm

things that cost 4k:

- the black magic 4k camera (pre-order)
- a tricked out Mac Pro or music computing 4k rig
- super serious 4k displays

assuming you had a 4k signal coming from the computer the first problem imho would be displaying it. the seiki tvs are like $1200 for a 55" but the color for any video, photo or art work would be lacking. the other problem is fairly low frame rates I think the max of the tv was 24 or 30 over hdmi.

the other problem would be going cheap on a computer. any kind of rendering would be painfully slow and working at 4k would be extra difficult. I'm not totally sure how I'd make cg type stuff but I'd want to do both cg and camera footage.

the reason I wanted to go 4k in the first place is because all the GUIs, icons, etc on my 40" 1080p tv are all pretty huge. it's ok because I'm kind of blind but for me 40"/42" is kind of the max anything bigger than that and the 1080p resolution really gets to be too low.

prices for all this stuff will start to come down just like they did for 1080p it's just a matter of how many years 1 or 2 ? 5 or 10 ? etc. plus I think the costs of high speed storage will come down but that would be another pretty big expense these days.
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Postby MetroSonus » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:16 pm

Im at an av trade show right now and ive learned two things

1. There hella tons of of 4k

2. Most irl non internet asian women look like velma from scooby doo.
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Postby gregwar » Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:21 pm

here's some shots from the mari demo they teased in the wwdc '13 keynote:

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Screen Shot 2013-06-13 at 5.12.20 PM by greg_war, on Flickr

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Screen Shot 2013-06-13 at 5.14.40 PM by greg_war, on Flickr

here's the url:
https://developer.apple.com/wwdc/videos/

you need to have safari and a (free) dev id to watch the video but its pretty amazing. guy is basically doing live 3d painting on a character in real time, crunching pretty massive amounts of data that used to take 2-12 hours of rendering.

it is kind of ironic watching this in quicktime lol :samsh:
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Postby gregwar » Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:29 am

other 4k misc babble:

current macbook pro retina resolutions are 2880x1800. 4k displays have a resolution of 3840x2160. the verge briefly tested the '12 rmbp with the new asus 4k display and found that the graphics card wasn't quite ready to drive both the retina display and 4k monitor.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/4/439429 ... patibility

the graphics card in question is nvidia gforce 650m with kepler architecture (28nm) and 1gb of video memory, which i assume is gddr5.


anyways, thats ancient technology and the new just announced geforce gtx 700m series was announced a couple weeks ago and gets pretty sick

http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/30/nvid ... s-eyes-on/

the 780m has 1536 cuda cores and an 823mhz base clock with up to 4gb of 256-bit gddr5 memory (similar to top end desktop workstation performance).

its not likely to make it into an upcoming macbook pro but the 770m, 765m and 760m all have different price points and performance trade offs with the 760m said to be 30% faster and 770m 55% faster

these are shipping out like now (in june, '13) and they have some 'unannounced partners'

whether apple goes with nvidia or amd chips for their next macbook pros is kind of besides the point as i think for mobile 4k workstation-laptops either will be powerful enough to at least use 4k displays.

also, haswell, intel's new cpus are said to be able to support 4k on their integrated graphics. the new macbook air has hd 5000 'iris' graphics that support 4k displays and if/when the mac mini sees a haswell update it will likely be able to do the same.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2037038/ ... boost.html


so ya now that mobile cpus are ridiculously powerful the next step is to bring up the graphics (btw i got a full 80 something tracks on my 2.3g quad mac mini in the logic benchmark test). i'm super excited to see what the next generation of macbook pros are capable of doing
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Postby Plink Floyd » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:08 am

MetroSonus wrote:Most irl non internet asian women look like velma from scooby doo.
Zoinks!

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gregwar wrote:4k misc babble
I'm saving up for moar cudas. Many cudas are good, but moar is better.
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Postby ElectricPuppy » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:59 am

MetroSonus wrote:Im at an av trade show right now and ive learned two things

1. There hella tons of of 4k

2. Most irl non internet asian women look like velma from scooby doo.


uuuuuhhhh I kinda like Velma. :grin:

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Postby Plink Floyd » Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:09 am

Smart curvy sweater girls ftw.
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Postby christianrock » Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:23 pm

You guys like nerdy girls huh?

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Based on the regular cartoon look she had though, no. Hell no.

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Now this is more like it:

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Postby ElectricPuppy » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:12 pm

From Mac Pro to Velma R34 in one page flat. I love this place. :grin:
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Postby Veracohr » Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:28 am

Goddamnit.

I was casually browsing through this thread earlier, at work, thinking I was safe reading a thread about the new MacPro, and suddenly CARTOON BOOBS WITH PROMINENT NIPPLES!.

Fuck. :facepalm:
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Postby soundwave106 » Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:48 pm

Judging from an unfiltered GIS, Velma is actually quite a decent popular figure to draw among the Rule 34ers out there.

Certainly more popular than Shaggy. :wave:
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Postby gregwar » Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:18 am

NEW MAC PRO NSFW lol
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Postby christianrock » Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:32 pm

Apologies :o

I thought that since it was a cartoon and there was no nudity, it would be ok. Sorry about that.
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