Best of the Best: Mixing Plug-ins and Techniques

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Re: Best of the Best: Mixing Plug-ins and Techniques

Postby MetroSonus » Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:07 pm

ElectricPuppy wrote:I'm hit and miss with effects. Sometimes I use DAW effects, but other times I use the KSP-8. I'm probably more apt to use the KSP-8 than not, because it does neat stuff without any load on my PC, natch. There's a way cool ambient friendly patch in there called "Echo World" which is a chain of delays and reverbs, and it's great for SPAAAAAAAACE.

So, in conclusion: Outboard.


As far as I know, its the only thing that does what it does in hardware.

I mentioned that to SI a whike ago. What's neat about software and especially ableton, is being able to link multiple parameters to the same controls.
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Re: Best of the Best: Mixing Plug-ins and Techniques

Postby midinut » Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:03 pm

I just got an email with a video from Slate Digital about their new subscription service. Anybody tried these? Access to their entire library of plugs.
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Re: Best of the Best: Mixing Plug-ins and Techniques

Postby MetroSonus » Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:04 pm

No.. Hoping they don't discontinue purchases. I'd like to get one or two things eventually
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Re: Best of the Best: Mixing Plug-ins and Techniques

Postby gregwar » Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:38 pm

i own about half of their current plug-ins (virtual bus comp, virtual tape and virtual console) they're great plug-ins.

the ones i don't have are the virtual mix rack modules and the fg-x limiter. if i bought them i wouldn't need the subscription

they've said the purchase option isn't going away and all the updates i've received so far have been free.

as long as it doesn't turn into WUP like waves then i don't see any harm in having another option
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Re: Best of the Best: Mixing Plug-ins and Techniques

Postby gregwar » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:20 pm

ALCHEMY IS NOW FREE WITH LOGIC 10.2 ZOMGWTFBBQ !

http://bit.ly/1JwVX65
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Re: Best of the Best: Mixing Plug-ins and Techniques

Postby MetroSonus » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:32 pm

I wonder how long until they sell it as a stand alone? If they do. I guess. Lol.
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Re: Best of the Best: Mixing Plug-ins and Techniques

Postby soundwave106 » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:10 pm

This is Apple, so nah.

Us PC users will just have to contend with the ol' Alchemy 1 on the hard drive. :/
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Re: Best of the Best: Mixing Plug-ins and Techniques

Postby gregwar » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:12 pm

as you may be aware it was stand alone for many years
(*edit: i think it was a 32/64 pc & mac plug-in not a 'stand alone' program, don't remember)

camel audio appeared to be going under for a while and then there were rumours of apple/logic buying up the whole company

i was pretty excited and am really surprised at how fast they've pushed out the last couple updates

10.1 was huge with electronic and hip hop drummers, etc

10.2 alchemy is a synthesist dream !

apparently it has over 3000 presets, which makes it sound like all the expansion packs are included ?

i'll post back as i instal the update and try it out

*edit: here's tons more info
http://createdigitalmusic.com/2015/08/d ... whats-new/
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Re: Best of the Best: Mixing Plug-ins and Techniques

Postby gregwar » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:23 pm

i just googled logic 10.2 issues

on gs users are already reporting midi timing/quantize issues

it might be wise to make a duplicate of logic x before updating

(right click > duplicate)
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Re: Best of the Best: Mixing Plug-ins and Techniques

Postby MetroSonus » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:29 pm

What was the issue with camel? I thought alchemy was pretty strong.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if gforce or whatever their name is now, is next. Hardly any updates in years. I'm sure they license their technology though.
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Re: Best of the Best: Mixing Plug-ins and Techniques

Postby gregwar » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:21 pm

so here's a bit of what the new interface looks like and the sound packs available:
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the download file is like 14gb and the categories seem to cover similar territory to the original alchemy expansion packs, if memory serves correct

i had the planet world one or something because it was on sale super cheap and had alchemy working on my iPad 1 for a while (awesome with the x/y pads they had)

i'm pretty excited to see if they'll bring over the full alchemy app to the new iPads (4 tracks, presets, sound packs, etc AND full control/remote mode)
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Re: Best of the Best: Mixing Plug-ins and Techniques

Postby soundwave106 » Thu Aug 27, 2015 12:22 am

MetroSonus wrote:What was the issue with camel? I thought alchemy was pretty strong.


From what I understand, Apple made a price that they couldn't refuse... Alchemy was kind of looking to sell for a while anyways... that's at least the impression I got from the messy KVR forum thread that spawned when they first closed.

At least they didn't pull what some companies do and pretty much abandon the technology after buying them out...
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Re: Best of the Best: Mixing Plug-ins and Techniques

Postby gregwar » Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:11 am

soundwave106 wrote:
MetroSonus wrote:What was the issue with camel? I thought alchemy was pretty strong.
At least they didn't pull what some companies do and pretty much abandon the technology after buying them out...


i sorta wish more of the redmatica stuff was included in logic. apple bought out their stuff years ago and only included an auto sampler in MainStage (i'm not complaining, MainStage is $29 so i could just use it for that one plug-in)

but keymap and an auto sampler for exs24 would have been great (might still be coming some day)
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Re: Best of the Best: Mixing Plug-ins and Techniques

Postby gregwar » Fri Aug 28, 2015 5:30 am

huge sale at puremagnetik

50% off everything until Friday at midnight

I had a subscription all-access for 1 year in '07 or '08. their packs were smallish individually but now they've got quite the library (90 or so packs & counting)

the quality was always outstanding

they switched to only able ton live for a while but now they seem to offer at least sample packs for logic, kontakt and live

http://puremagnetik.com
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Re: Best of the Best: Mixing Plug-ins and Techniques

Postby gregwar » Sun Aug 30, 2015 12:29 am

so the puremagnetik sale is still on today (sat) so i pulled the trigger. i got the century package for $150 but they don't come with a free shirt anymore :cry:

i have quite a few of their older packs in kontakt form but what i'm really interested in is the esx24 (logic's built in sampler)

the exs24 is no slouch, its not as deep as kontakt and has relatively simple controls but the files can now be opened by alchemy

alchemy can run in a 'sampler' mode where it uses less resources (and has updated filters, etc) but the interesting thing will be using the resynthesis options like granular, spectral, formant, etc

(plus i'm always eager to get weird stuff to feed my v-synth gt)
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Re: Best of the Best: Mixing Plug-ins and Techniques

Postby gregwar » Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:17 pm

REAKTOR 6 !!1

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this is like 10 years in the making. reaktor is by far my fav plug-in and now new blocks, interface and browser make it even more awesum

also, LAZERBASS
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Re: Best of the Best: Mixing Plug-ins and Techniques

Postby gregwar » Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:14 pm

so op-x pro II is now a 64 bit plug-in and available on mac as a vst/au

if you haven't tried it i highly recommend, to me it sounds like one of the best emulations ever made hands down. it covers classic oberheim territory from the sem and ob-x up to the matrix 12 and even some jupiter patches :eek:

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i'm testing out the demo. there are still a few bugs and the demo limitations are kinda harsh. i'm just glad i don't have to do the v-machine work around anymore for this an synth1 !!


OBLIGATORY JUMP PATCH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 (and others)



more info from the website:
http://sonicprojects.ch/opxpro2/description.html

General Features:
- 2 oscillators (saw, pulse, sine)
- fm, hard sync, ring mod, pw modulation
- morphable multimode filter (lp12/24, hp, bp, no)
- 2 LFOs (main, lever)
- LFO 1 waveforms: sine, square, saw, triangle, sample&hold, sampled vibrato
- LFO 1 features: delay, note trigger, free phase adjustment
- 2 ADSRs (Filter, Amp)
- ADSR 1: invertable, routable to pitch and pulse width
- ADSR 2: switchable attack (lin/log), routable to ring mod
- stacked unisono with variable amount of voices and spread control
- switchable legato or retrigger (uni/poly)
- polyphonic portamento with switchable spread and detuning
- arpeggiator offering 32 modes
- chord hold, sequencer, double mode
- built in effects processor (reverb/delay) offering presets
- switchable dual engine effects processing
- LFO, effects and arpeggiator syncable to song tempo
- 32 wheel modes, mod to cutoff, assymetric bending
- MIDI learn & relative or fetched CC processing
- full MIDI feedback support
- Separate Voice Design (SVD)
- switchable master polyphony (6/8/12)
- deactivatable voices
- individual pan control per voice channel
- panning modulation
- global tuning options (OSC/FILT/ENV/POR)
- tuning trimpots per voice for custom tunings
- built in patch browser with patch change smoother
- 1500 built in presets
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Re: Best of the Best: Mixing Plug-ins and Techniques

Postby Plink Floyd » Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:14 am

gregwar wrote:REAKTOR 6 !!1

Honestly, I don't know why I don't have this. It's exactly the king of thing I love to have no time for.
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Re: Best of the Best: Mixing Plug-ins and Techniques

Postby gregwar » Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:28 am

Plink Floyd wrote:Honestly, I don't know why I don't have this. It's exactly the king of thing I love to have no time for.


i feel you there. i've finally had a bit of time to go through a bunch of tutorials for some plugins and whatnot. even in logic, my daw for 15+ years there's so much new stuff to learn all the time


reaktor, especially, is insanely deep. a few years ago i watched a crazy 30 something part tutorial from mac pro video. tons of stuff flew way over my head but i did get a grasp on its architecture, signal flow, etc

they have some newer ones now for reaktor 6. this is half the reason i signed up for ask.audio's academy thing for $15/month. there's over 6000 videos :eek:
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Re: Best of the Best: Mixing Plug-ins and Techniques

Postby MetroSonus » Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:37 pm

I was happy to see opx on OSX... That does have to be one of the best emulations out there.
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