My DAW considerations thread.

[christianrock]

By the way I think I'd get the Neutron over the Moog clone. It sounds just as wonderful...

Yeah, Neutron looks good too. If none of u guys gets one or the other, I'll just wait for Sweetwater Fest so I can A/B test them.

But if I got the Neutron, I'd have to have Clavanother paint it black for me.

And I'd say "$300? No wai man, a Neutron should have NO CHARGE!"

:angrybaby:

ok I

[ClavAnother]

I just caved and bought a neutron. Check it out:

[ElectricPuppy]

I don't find it. Zoom and enhance plzkthx

[Plink Floyd]

U can't see it cause it's sub-atomical sized.

And he painted it black.

[soundwave106]

U can't see it cause it's sub-atomical sized.

Unless he's showing a neutron *STAR*, which is fairly massive in size. But in most cases I believe does look like that picture.

Especially if you paint it black.

[gregwar]

daw daw daw

[MetroSonus]

hey I'm liking the neutron! I'm down..

[selfinflikted]

I'm usurping this thread into *MY* DAW considerations.

Are there any Logic X Pro users up in here? I've begun the process of slowly upgrading DAW stuff, and I have a decision to make: I know I'm going to get a Mac of some flavor for my music PC, so the question becomes "Do I stick with Cubase and just upgrade to the latest version, or try something new - namely Logic Pro X?"

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

[topcat]

I'm usurping this thread into *MY* DAW considerations.

Are there any Logic X Pro users up in here? I've begun the process of slowly upgrading DAW stuff, and I have a decision to make: I know I'm going to get a Mac of some flavor for my music PC, so the question becomes "Do I stick with Cubase and just upgrade to the latest version, or try something new - namely Logic Pro X?"

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

Unless you're releasing music professionally and coordinating with major studios, I don't think it matters anymore.
Logic Pro used to be the industry standard, but PC's and other software have pretty much caught up with the Mac software as far as recording goes.
I've heard from more and more professional artists who are tired of the workflow they have encountered working with Logic Pro software.

When considering changing your DAW software remember whenever you change, especially going from Cubase to Pro Logic you have a complete new learning curve to learn, and nothing inhibits creativity than trying to figure out how to record/mix/import, etc than learning a new DAW.

If you find your creativity is stagnant using Cubase than by all means, perhaps getting something else may make your workflow easier. And one alternative I've heard good reports about is Reaper.
https://www.reaper.fm/index.php

Ok, I just realized much of my comment was about Pro Tools not Logic, which I know nothing about. But for continuity I'll leave my comments intact.

I love this guy, here's a rant on Apple.
His channel is great, lots of professional tips and info on recording.

phpBB [video]

[ClavAnother]

I never got why people like logic. I know several that use it but the story is often that it was a matter of the studio they worked at had it so they may as well use it at home to keep things compatible.

I've been using digital performer for a very long time and I honestly have know idea why anyone wouldn't use it.

[selfinflikted]

TopKitteh,

I don't find my creativity stifled by Cubase at all. I love Cubase (currently using ver 5.somthing), and the reasons why I'm thinking of switching are:

1) It's an Apple product, and I'm moving to an Apple computer
2) It integrates with the entire Apple ecosystem - you can use your iPhone and iPad for second screen mixer, and other second screen apps
3) Am definitely a fan of Apple products

I have nothing against Cubase at all - have used it for years and years. I just figured that if I'm moving to an Apple computer and have all manner of other Apple devices, maybe it would be smart to use Apple DAW software as well. Just kinda thinking of options at this point - not ready to make a move yet. Just putting my feelers out there.

[selfinflikted]

I never got why people like logic. I know several that use it but the story is often that it was a matter of the studio they worked at had it so they may as well use it at home to keep things compatible.

I've been using digital performer for a very long time and I honestly have know idea why anyone wouldn't use it.

Logic seems to be popular, and surely there's a reason for that. I never heard of Digital Performer, but I'm definitely going to do my due diligence on all my options.

[ElectricPuppy]

My interest, you haz it. I'm still planning to check out Bitwig, but I'd like to hear about others.

[soundwave106]

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

I kind of think the "best DAW" these days is the one that you can get used to and like the workflow.

A quick skim of reviews seems to suggest that Logic might be more "Apple standard" in workflow and if you are all about all things Apple that might make a difference. I still wouldn't commit personally without some time on a trial demo though.

[MetroSonus]

Si, you're saying that cubase is an apple product? Did they buy them?

[ElectricPuppy]

I kind of think the "best DAW" these days is the one that you can get used to and like the workflow.

Bingo!

[christianrock]

I would stick with Cubase, honestly, if you are used to it and it doesn't get in the way of your music.

I tried to get Logic Pro X years ago when I bought my Mac (and that just tells you how it hasn't been updated since), and I was unsuccessful getting it from the Apple Store at the time, and even calls over the phone didn't resolve it. So I never tried it. I've been running Reaper and have been pretty happy with it.

[midinut]

I started using Cubase on a PC back around Cubase SL/SX. I upgraded several times over the years and am currently sitting at 7.5. I bought a MacBook Pro a couple of years ago and bought Logic Pro X at the same time. I had about 3 CDs worth of original stuff recorded in Cubase and am still trying to figure out a way to port them over to Logic. I am running Cubase on my MacBook and opening up the files (in some cases the songs have lost the links to the original audio files or lost connection with a VST that I used on the PC but don't have on the Mac. I really loved the Cubase workflow and Logic is not too far off base from it. I watched a series of tutorials over at MacProVideo.com that got me up and running in no time in Logic, MainStage, and GarageBand. Another thing to note is Apple has not once asked me to spend any more money to upgrade Logic Pro (or Mainstage, or GB). Steinberg, on the other hand, is wanting another $200 to upgrade my 7.5 to 9.5 IIRC. If you factor in all the money I've thrown at Steinberg over the years to keep it current (and I have not upgraded every time. Usually I'll skip one or two versions before I upgrade) I've probably got $1500-2000 invested in it. I really love some of the Steinberg VSTs (HALion Sonic has most of the Yamaha Motif sound sets, PadShop Pro and Retrologue are awesome). On the other hand, Logic has some really awesome VSTs as well. Alchemy is a monster and the rest are no slouches at all. Brilliant stuff.

So to wrap this mega-post up, anything new I start to write I'm using Logic now. I'm still trying to port my old stuff over and may just finish them in Cubase and say to hell with it. The workflow in Logic is very similar to Cubase. I have Ableton and can't seem to wrap my head around it - even though I totally understand the concepts it uses. One last observation - maybe it's just me, but I swear Cubase seemed to run much better on my PC than it does on my MacBook for some reason. Both had i7s and 16GB RAM and SSDs so I don't understand why but it seems that way to me anyway.

[selfinflikted]

Si, you're saying that cubase is an apple product? Did they buy them?

Nah. Logic is the Apple product. Cubase is Steinberg all day long

[selfinflikted]

Christian, soundwave, and Midi;

Thanks for the input. I really kinda want to try something new, but like I said I have zero issue with Cubase. It's going to be a while before I can upgrade the computer, so I have plenty of time to mull this over. I'm gonna watch some DAW stuffs on the YouTubes this weekend to try to at least narrow down some choices.